About pre EB Lefty Stingray

bajito · **Posted:** August 8th, 2011, 1:26 am

Hello !

did somebody knows if Pre EB Musicman stingrays exist ?

a friend of mine let me try his 79', that's sooooo good ! The Mojo is awesome.

I really would like to find one, but well, I didn't find information about a hypothetic lefty model.

Thanks !

bigevilrobot · **Joined:** March 29th, 2011, 11:00 am **Posts:** 447

Yes, they definitely exist. My old bass teacher had a fantastic one in sunburst.
You can also from time to time find pre-eb MusicMan Sabre basses in lefty as well.

pjmuck · **Posted:** August 8th, 2011, 8:14 am

They do indeed exist. I own both a '80 Stingray and '80 Sabre. There was a group of lefties produced in the same brief window of that year. I've personally never seen a lefty earlier than '80, though that's not to say they don't exist. Oddly enough, I've seen far more Pre-EB lefty Sabres (the less produced/less popular of the 2 models) than 'Rays, but there's a few Pre-EB 'Rays on Arni's site. Here's mine:

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Addison · **Joined:** June 15th, 2009, 8:03 am **Posts:** 1341

Many a day ago, I used to have one of those cheesy books about basses by Hal Leonard or something... I think it was printed in the 80's.

Anyway, it had a B&W picture of McCartney playing a Ray, and it looked like the pic was taken in the 70's.

I've been looking for that picture ever since.

Addison · **Joined:** June 15th, 2009, 8:03 am **Posts:** 1341

By the way... KILLER BASSES PJ.

DAMN!!!

andrew · **Posted:** August 8th, 2011, 11:40 am

I have a pre-EB Sabre too.

I agree about the pre-EB stuff. I know EB claims there's no difference in the preamps, etc. but there's a difference to my ears.

If you want to get closer to the pre-EB sound in a EB Stingray, I recommend replacing the preamp with the East MM 2 band pre, which sounds VERY close to the pre-EB basses pre to me, and replace the pickup with a Duncan/basslines ceramic magnet pickup. My EB Stingray with these mods sounds 99% pre-EB to my ears and still has the comfort and rugged modern build quality of the current EB basses.

Matt R. · **Posted:** August 8th, 2011, 11:42 am

My god man. That Sabre is a beast. 8-)

Carmine · **Joined:** October 5th, 2008, 9:45 am **Posts:** 788

eeeee

Matt R. wrote:

My god man. That Sabre is a beast. 8-)

Oh, is this now a "show your Pre EB Sabre" thread? Well OK then! 8-)

gravesbass · **Posted:** August 8th, 2011, 4:29 pm

Carmine wrote:

eeeee

Matt R. wrote:

My god man. That Sabre is a beast. 8-)

Oh, is this now a "show your Pre EB Sabre" thread? Well OK then! 8-)

drool!!!!

pjmuck · **Posted:** August 8th, 2011, 9:57 pm

andrew wrote:

I have a pre-EB Sabre too.

I agree about the pre-EB stuff. I know EB claims there's no difference in the preamps, etc. but there's a difference to my ears.

If you want to get closer to the pre-EB sound in a EB Stingray, I recommend replacing the preamp with the East MM 2 band pre, which sounds VERY close to the pre-EB basses pre to me, and replace the pickup with a Duncan/basslines ceramic magnet pickup. My EB Stingray with these mods sounds 99% pre-EB to my ears and still has the comfort and rugged modern build quality of the current EB basses.

Good tips, Andrew. With the exception of the tone/preamp, I'd say I prefer the overall build and options of the newer EB basses to the Pre-EBs (satin neck finish, tons more finish options, 5 bolt neck, lighter weight, etc), at least with regard to the Stingray. I really like the preamp/tones of the Sterling and Bongo, but the '97 'Ray I had was fairly anemic and sterile sounding. The Pre-EB Musicmans had gloss necks, which I normally prefer but can feel tacky on these basses after playing a while. They also had 3 bolt necks, which have never given me problems, but "more bolts = more stability" is ingrained in my mind regardless.

bajito · **Posted:** August 9th, 2011, 1:07 am

OOOhh ! thanks you very much for these informations ! If anyday you found a nice PreEB stingray on sale, or you're interested in selling yours, advise me ! I like that funky sound !

rick_hazarai · **Joined:** April 17th, 2010, 2:34 am **Posts:** 5

Hi French Mate

Just take a look on Arni's Website, "secondhand section" :shock:

pjmuck · **Posted:** August 14th, 2011, 6:33 am

rick_hazarai wrote:

Hi French Mate

Just take a look on Arni's Website, "secondhand section" :shock:

Perfect timing. And not a bad price either, depending on condition.

slybass3000 · **Posted:** August 14th, 2011, 9:04 am

The bass is sold. Anyone from here?

bajito · **Posted:** August 16th, 2011, 12:54 am

rick_hazarai wrote:

Hi French Mate

Just take a look on Arni's Website, "secondhand section" :shock:

Nice one isn't it ?

pjmuck wrote:

Perfect timing. And not a bad price either, depending on condition.

pjmuck : what does your "depending on condition" mean ? If you're saying bass condition, she's seeming to be in very good shape. Just, frets may be a little marked, but not a problem for me.

pjmuck · **Posted:** August 16th, 2011, 1:44 pm

bajito wrote:

pjmuck : what does your "depending on condition" mean ? If you're saying bass condition, she's seeming to be in very good shape. Just, frets may be a little marked, but not a problem for me.

Are you saying you got it? Congrats if you did. Let us know how it plays.

bajito · **Posted:** August 31st, 2011, 3:19 am

pjmuck wrote:

Ok, I received my bass for Patrick (100% trusty very sympathic guy). That's exactly the same as pjmuck picture. This bass sounds amazing, and is in excellent shape. She's gonna be quite played, for sure !

I have one question, I read that preEBMM volume pot is not correctly tappered, so the volume pot is not very efficient. Do you have the same problem ? Also, bass, high and volume pot are set for righty, and not lefty, so that's the other way around. Do you have the same problem ?

danomite64 · **Posted:** August 31st, 2011, 4:49 am

I used to have one of each:

IIRC, The knobs did turn righty; it was never an issue for me. If your serial number is B016288, that's the one I used to have.

slybass3000 · **Posted:** August 31st, 2011, 6:53 am

danomite64 wrote:

I used to have one of each:

IIRC, The knobs did turn righty; it was never an issue for me. If your serial number is B016288, that's the one I used to have.

OMG

That Sabre just looks like the one I had a few years ago. When did you sell that bass? I bought it from a guy here in Montreal called Normand.

danomite64 · **Posted:** August 31st, 2011, 7:06 am

2005? I sold off a bunch of stuff after my divorce, it was one of the last things I got rid of. I know I started missing that Stingray sound, so I bought a used ATK in May of 2006 to cover it until I could afford another 'Ray or Sabre, so I sold it before then.

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